40th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION
EDITED HANSARD • NUMBER 042
CONTENTS
Tuesday, April 21, 2009
Domtar Plant in Lebel-sur-Quévillon
Mr. Yvon Lévesque
(Abitibi—Baie-James—Nunavik—Eeyou, BQ):
Mr. Speaker, on January 27, I
asked the Minister of Human Resources and Skills Development
a question about a problem in Lebel-sur-Quévillon concerning
the closure of the paper mill and sawmill, which put 425 employees
out of work. For that town, it was the equivalent of 550,000
jobs in Montreal. On that day—budget day, as you may recall—the
minister replied, “I invite the member to wait for this
afternoon's budget and to support us so that we can rebuild
the economy together.”
However, further to the request I made to the minister, after
reading the budget several times, I have not found anything
that would answer the question I asked. I would remind the House
of a few facts. The Employment Insurance Act used to be called
the Unemployment Insurance Act. Before that, the federal government
had gathered together legislation that existed in all the provinces,
but did not exist at the federal level. In the provinces, including
Quebec, legislation was passed in the 1920s to help those most
in need, and in 1939-40 it was temporarily taken up by the federal
government, which allocated funds in order provide a decent
income for the time.
As soon as the economy recovered and the program was put in
place, the government ensured that it would self-sustain itself
and stopped funding it, while keeping control of operations
and grabbing surpluses to use them towards the federal deficit.
It is in that context that, in 1996, the Minister of Finance
released the name, the thrust and the goals of that program.
Indeed, at the time, the minister changed the title of the Unemployment
Insurance Act, which referred to the situation for which this
legislation had been passed—that is to protect the workers
and local economies affected. Until 1996, the program had always
been indexed to the cost of living, or close to it.
So, ironically, the minister renamed it the “employment
insurance” program, as if the income provided by our employment
was not in itself an insurance provided by our work, and as
if we needed other compensation in addition to the income provided
by our work.
Worse still, the minister reduced insurable amounts from $47,000
to $39,000, in addition to reducing from 60% down to 55% the
percentage used to calculate the amount of the benefits to be
paid. That percentage was also reduced each time a claimant
would rely on these benefits, down to a threshold of 50%. This
means that benefits which, in most cases, amounted to $28,000
in 1994-95, went down to $19,500 in January 1996, and, in many
cases, to much less than that. In his desire to grab money as
quickly as possible, this minister, who went on to become the
Prime Minister, had made his legislation, which was passed on
April 30, 1996, retroactive to January 1.
In response to the question that I put to her on March 10, when
I came back, the minister said that there were very great challenges
in these tough times for a great number of people, and that
the government had a framework and intended to stick with it.
We are now going through another crisis, and it is important
to give back access to employment insurance to those who need
it. People serving two or three years in jail can maintain their
right to employment insurance, but that is not the case for
workers, and today they need that program.
Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister
of Human Resources and Skills Development and to the Minister
of Labour, CPC):
Mr. Speaker, there is no doubt that the employment insurance
program has been expanded. A number of things have been done
to enhance the program.
The EI program's basic insurance principle stipulates that the
premiums paid and benefits disbursed must be reasonably close
in terms of both timing and value. That is why the EI program's
qualifying period is clearly established as the 52 weeks preceding
an application for benefits. It is a core principle that would
need to be enhanced or dealt with in any program.
We analyzed the labour market and consulted widely with Canadians
before developing our economic action plan. The result is a
framework that responds to the current economic situation by
assisting workers financially now and helping them to prepare
for jobs as the economy improves.
The changes we have made to the EI program are an essential
component of our economic action plan. There are a number of
enhancements to the program. They include: providing nationally
the benefits of the previous five-week pilot project and increasing
the maximum duration of benefits available under the EI program
by five weeks, raising it from 45 weeks to 50 weeks; allowing
earlier access to EI regular income benefits for eligible individuals
purchasing their own training using all or part of their severance
package; a pilot project that will provide extended EI income
support to long-tenured workers while they are on claim; temporarily
increasing the funding to the provinces and territories for
training programs and services, an additional $1 billion to
top up the current funding of $1.95 billion; and a two-year
strategic training and transition fund to create opportunities
for employment, enable community self-reliance and provide flexible
support to individual workers for skills upgrading and training.
Clearly, these measures and others, such as the targeted initiative
for older workers, show that this government continues to take
action to adjust the employment insurance program to meet the
needs of today's workers and prepare them for the jobs of tomorrow.
That being said, I wish to assure the hon. member that we will
continue to monitor the current EI system to ensure that the
program is working and responding effectively to ever-changing
economic circumstances. Built within the employment insurance
program is the provision that if unemployment in a region rises,
benefits are longer and the time to qualify is shorter. That
part is flexible. We are making sure that the needs of those
who are most vulnerable are met.
Mr. Yvon Lévesque:
Mr. Speaker, my colleague across the floor just underscored
a point which absolutely needs to be tackled. He said that the
plan must adapt to the emerging needs. Because of the cost of
living and the urbanization, the needs of today, in this crisis,
are much more pressing than they were in 1920 or 1940. Given
that there are enormous amounts of money in the employment insurance
coffers, that the government draws from to pay off the debt,
that money should instead be used to help the ones who paid
it in the first place: businesses, workers and communities.
Without employment insurance revenues, these people cannot recover
the money owed to them. We are forcing workers to get into debt,
and they become helpless.
Mr. Ed Komarnicki:
Mr. Speaker, as I mentioned earlier, there are 58 regions in
the country and they adjust automatically month by month so
that they react quickly. Eighty-two per cent of those who pay
into the system actually receive benefits.
We understand that many Canadians have been affected by these
economic times. We empathize with them and understand where
they are, in that they have lost their jobs through circumstances
beyond their control. For those who are able to qualify, these
benefits are there for them. We want to ensure that we continue
to take steps to get the money to those who need it most.
It is critical that these benefits, as they are applied for,
are processed expeditiously. We have taken steps to ensure that
happens.
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